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Knightfall Madgod
Number of posts : 8624 Registration date : 2009-02-25 Age : 30 Location : Who wants to know?
| Subject: Re: Avant-Garde Metal Sun Jan 31, 2010 11:39 am | |
| Old thread is old.
Very old.
Though I still say Unexpect is the best, then followed by Patton's bands. | |
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PerYngveOhlin Aryan Dronefag
Number of posts : 2659 Registration date : 2009-07-30 Age : 35 Location : Canada
| Subject: Re: Avant-Garde Metal Sun Jan 31, 2010 11:42 am | |
| Any sane person says that Unexpect is fucking annoying and Mike Patton is an untalented man partly responsible for ruining metal. | |
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Knightfall Madgod
Number of posts : 8624 Registration date : 2009-02-25 Age : 30 Location : Who wants to know?
| Subject: Re: Avant-Garde Metal Sun Jan 31, 2010 11:42 am | |
| Since when has anyone given a shit about sanity? | |
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PerYngveOhlin Aryan Dronefag
Number of posts : 2659 Registration date : 2009-07-30 Age : 35 Location : Canada
| Subject: Re: Avant-Garde Metal Sun Jan 31, 2010 11:45 am | |
| In this case the word 'sane' is interchangable with 'intelligent'. | |
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Knightfall Madgod
Number of posts : 8624 Registration date : 2009-02-25 Age : 30 Location : Who wants to know?
| Subject: Re: Avant-Garde Metal Sun Jan 31, 2010 12:05 pm | |
| Since when has anyone given a shit about intelligence? | |
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Death's Hand Zombie
Number of posts : 485 Registration date : 2010-01-28 Location : Ethereality
| Subject: Re: Avant-Garde Metal Sun Jan 31, 2010 12:46 pm | |
| - PerYngveOhlin wrote:
- Any sane person says that Unexpect is fucking annoying and Mike Patton is an untalented man partly responsible for ruining metal.
That's the best damn joke I've heard in a LONG time. | |
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Phil Grammar Nazi
Number of posts : 5715 Registration date : 2009-02-25 Age : 36 Location : On the Spiral
| Subject: Re: Avant-Garde Metal Sun Jan 31, 2010 2:12 pm | |
| - PerYngveOhlin wrote:
- In this case the word 'sane' is interchangable with 'boring'.
Fixed it a bit. | |
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PerYngveOhlin Aryan Dronefag
Number of posts : 2659 Registration date : 2009-07-30 Age : 35 Location : Canada
| Subject: Re: Avant-Garde Metal Sun Jan 31, 2010 3:36 pm | |
| - Phil wrote:
- PerYngveOhlin wrote:
- In this case the word 'sane' is interchangable with 'boring'.
Fixed it a bit. No, you really didn't. Avante-Garde music isn't 'fun' it isn't 'unique' and it isn't 'interesting'. It is just fucking annoying. Worst genre EVER. Shit bands, fucking stupid fans. 80-90% worse than Opeth fans. | |
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Phil Grammar Nazi
Number of posts : 5715 Registration date : 2009-02-25 Age : 36 Location : On the Spiral
| Subject: Re: Avant-Garde Metal Sun Jan 31, 2010 3:41 pm | |
| - PerYngveOhlin wrote:
- Phil wrote:
- PerYngveOhlin wrote:
- In this case the word 'sane' is interchangable with 'boring'.
Fixed it a bit. No, you really didn't. Avante-Garde music isn't 'fun' it isn't 'unique' and it isn't 'interesting'. It is just fucking annoying. Worst genre EVER. Shit bands, fucking stupid fans. 80-90% worse than Opeth fans. The thing is that 2 of the three modifiers you used are completely subjective. "Fun" and "interesting" are entirely in the perception of the listener. Of course you have already closed yourself off to what isn't really even a genre to begin with, but it doesn't mean others have and it's really not even a criticism at all. As for unique, it really depends on the band. But if your main criticism is that Avant-Garde music isn't unique, then why the FUCK do you listen to black metal? | |
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Goat Teh Lezboah
Number of posts : 1368 Registration date : 2009-06-29 Location : HK
| Subject: Re: Avant-Garde Metal Sun Jan 31, 2010 3:45 pm | |
| I think my beef with the avant-garde or experimental label comes from the historical trend that many experiments fail ;d | |
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Death's Hand Zombie
Number of posts : 485 Registration date : 2010-01-28 Location : Ethereality
| Subject: Re: Avant-Garde Metal Sun Jan 31, 2010 3:55 pm | |
| - PerYngveOhlin wrote:
- Phil wrote:
- PerYngveOhlin wrote:
- In this case the word 'sane' is interchangable with 'boring'.
Fixed it a bit. No, you really didn't. Avante-Garde music isn't 'fun' it isn't 'unique' and it isn't 'interesting'. It is just fucking annoying. Worst genre EVER. Shit bands, fucking stupid fans. 80-90% worse than Opeth fans. Actually...it is 'unique', as well as innovative, and extremely 'interesting'...your opinion is just that, YOURS. Darkthrone fucking sucks even in terms of black metal standards(I dare say that's not even just my opinion), but you don't see me crying about it('til now). Just because your too afraid to step outside of the confines of your "fav" genre, doesn't mean the rest of us are. | |
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PerYngveOhlin Aryan Dronefag
Number of posts : 2659 Registration date : 2009-07-30 Age : 35 Location : Canada
| Subject: Re: Avant-Garde Metal Sun Jan 31, 2010 4:11 pm | |
| I frequently listen to things other than black metal, in fact I listen to a little bit of pretty much everything that doesn't suck. There is no artistic merit or musical merit to anything in this terrible genre. Mike Patton is a fucking idiot who should be exterminated. Furthermore, Darkthrone is one of the best bands ever. They are clearly better than any band you like, unless you like Manilla Road.
@Phil I don't care about music being unique, all the words in parenthesis are mocking people that enjoy the genre, Avante-Garde faggots typically are Opeth fans on steroids with the pretentious 'I'm better and smarter than you because the music I listen to is complex'.
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Goat Teh Lezboah
Number of posts : 1368 Registration date : 2009-06-29 Location : HK
| Subject: Re: Avant-Garde Metal Sun Jan 31, 2010 4:13 pm | |
| Guys you don't have to fight about genres D:! Just listen and love)) And yea Per's avatar is one of the best black metal albums, or at least of the Nordic variety. | |
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Death's Hand Zombie
Number of posts : 485 Registration date : 2010-01-28 Location : Ethereality
| Subject: Re: Avant-Garde Metal Sun Jan 31, 2010 4:21 pm | |
| I think there's a VAST difference in our respective definitions of what "suck" is...and yes, every band you like is clearly better than any band I do*snicker*, you're a funny guy, however...Knutfail, someone just took your spot. | |
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PerYngveOhlin Aryan Dronefag
Number of posts : 2659 Registration date : 2009-07-30 Age : 35 Location : Canada
| Subject: Re: Avant-Garde Metal Sun Jan 31, 2010 4:32 pm | |
| No, I wouldn't say every band that I like is better than every one you like (unless you only like Avant-Garde shit) but Darkthrone is the second best band ever. | |
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Phil Grammar Nazi
Number of posts : 5715 Registration date : 2009-02-25 Age : 36 Location : On the Spiral
| Subject: Re: Avant-Garde Metal Sun Jan 31, 2010 4:37 pm | |
| - PerYngveOhlin wrote:
- @Phil I don't care about music being unique, all the words in parenthesis are mocking people that enjoy the genre, Avante-Garde faggots typically are Opeth fans on steroids with the pretentious 'I'm better and smarter than you because the music I listen to is complex'.
Whether the music is truly "unique" is not the attribute that most fans of avant-garde are valuing when they use the word. The difference and variation is what some people are drawn to in the avant-garde genre. Maybe these aren't attributes you value, but it certainly doesn't make the music inferior because of this. Also, I fail to see why complexity is a bad thing.... I'm certain it can be overdone as can any such feature, but I rather hate simplistic music, and that IS overdone quite often. Also, you didn't use even one parenthesis....I believe the term you're looking for is "quotations." | |
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PerYngveOhlin Aryan Dronefag
Number of posts : 2659 Registration date : 2009-07-30 Age : 35 Location : Canada
| Subject: Re: Avant-Garde Metal Sun Jan 31, 2010 4:46 pm | |
| Parenthesis, quotations, it doesn't matter. I'm still right and Avant-Garde is still dumb. | |
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Master Cthulhu Fully Converted
Number of posts : 2609 Registration date : 2009-08-04 Age : 31 Location : Jupiter, Florida
| Subject: Re: Avant-Garde Metal Sun Jan 31, 2010 4:48 pm | |
| Avant Garde is usually pretty terrible, save for a couple of bands.
Portal FTW. | |
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Phil Grammar Nazi
Number of posts : 5715 Registration date : 2009-02-25 Age : 36 Location : On the Spiral
| Subject: Re: Avant-Garde Metal Sun Jan 31, 2010 4:50 pm | |
| - PerYngveOhlin wrote:
- Parenthesis, quotations, it doesn't matter. I'm still right and Avant-Garde is still dumb.
You should join a debate team. I'm certain you'd never lose, since belligerence is the key attribute required for the "sport." | |
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PerYngveOhlin Aryan Dronefag
Number of posts : 2659 Registration date : 2009-07-30 Age : 35 Location : Canada
| Subject: Re: Avant-Garde Metal Sun Jan 31, 2010 4:56 pm | |
| I was briefly on the debate team in high school, I got kicked off for debating the existence of God in a Catholic school. I actually was quite good about it, I convinced a Jewish student that Aryans are superior.
NORSK ARISK BLACK METAL! | |
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temo Lord of the Manor
Number of posts : 2285 Registration date : 2009-02-28 Age : 31 Location : ENGLAND
| Subject: Re: Avant-Garde Metal Sun Jan 31, 2010 4:59 pm | |
| I like Avant-Garde
Which probly Bring the case for it Sucking a Few more points | |
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Phil Grammar Nazi
Number of posts : 5715 Registration date : 2009-02-25 Age : 36 Location : On the Spiral
| Subject: Re: Avant-Garde Metal Sun Jan 31, 2010 5:00 pm | |
| - temo wrote:
- I like Avant-Garde
Which probly Bring the case for it Sucking a Few more points Dammit, Timmy. You're officially our debate team's Least Valuable Player this year. | |
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temo Lord of the Manor
Number of posts : 2285 Registration date : 2009-02-28 Age : 31 Location : ENGLAND
| Subject: Re: Avant-Garde Metal Sun Jan 31, 2010 5:03 pm | |
| - Phil wrote:
- temo wrote:
- I like Avant-Garde
Which probly Bring the case for it Sucking a Few more points Dammit, Timmy. You're officially our debate team's Least Valuable Player this year. HURRAY! I WIN A PRIZE | |
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Goat Teh Lezboah
Number of posts : 1368 Registration date : 2009-06-29 Location : HK
| Subject: Re: Avant-Garde Metal Sun Jan 31, 2010 5:05 pm | |
| - PerYngveOhlin wrote:
- I was briefly on the debate team in high school, I got kicked off for debating the existence of God in a Catholic school. I actually was quite good about it, I convinced a Jewish student that Aryans are superior.
NORSK ARISK BLACK METAL! SLAVA SUPERIOR By the way hurry up and accept me on MSN Death's Hand. | |
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PerYngveOhlin Aryan Dronefag
Number of posts : 2659 Registration date : 2009-07-30 Age : 35 Location : Canada
| Subject: Re: Avant-Garde Metal Sun Jan 31, 2010 5:09 pm | |
| I read that as Slavia and got excited, Slavia is cool shit. | |
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