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PostSubject: Traditional Metal Discussion   Fri Jul 17, 2009 7:56 am

Here you discuss everything about Traditional Metal.

As far as Traditional Metal goes, I love Iron Maiden, don't know very much else

Discuss

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PostSubject: Re: Traditional Metal Discussion   Tue Aug 04, 2009 7:16 pm

Manilla Road

Any fans?
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PostSubject: Re: Traditional Metal Discussion   Wed Aug 05, 2009 1:21 am

Master Cthulhu wrote:
Manilla Road

Any fans?

If you post some samples I can tell you.
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PostSubject: Re: Traditional Metal Discussion   Wed Aug 05, 2009 10:53 am

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PostSubject: Re: Traditional Metal Discussion   Wed Aug 05, 2009 1:33 pm

Master Cthulhu wrote:
Manilla Road

Any fans?

*raises hand*

I think I may have to listen to them some more but I like those samples.
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PostSubject: Re: Traditional Metal Discussion   Wed Aug 05, 2009 2:50 pm

They are a grower for sure.

They are the kind of band where you can listen to an album 7 times in a row and not remember anything, but you go back to the albums again a couple months later and you remember almost everything from it.

Weird.

I am starting to collect their discography of full-lengths, which will cost a lot since there is 14 of them. But, first things first, I have to finish collecting the Burzum full lengths.
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PostSubject: Re: Traditional Metal Discussion   Wed Aug 05, 2009 5:24 pm

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I have to finish collecting the Burzum full lengths.

I keep hearing so many good things about Burzum on Metal Throne, yet I have never heard their music, any suggestions?

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PostSubject: Re: Traditional Metal Discussion   Wed Aug 05, 2009 5:39 pm

Metalthrone is mainly a black metal community, so that's why Razz

But, I would start off with mainly the debut or Hvis Lysett Tar Oss (or however you spell it...)

Samples:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ar624HUZOs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWynJCi_DSY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2qzbiucIoc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPyOhP1GTRQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0YCcuPtVq0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8TKPD-15oQ

One song from each album, in chronological order, showing the progression of the band. The reason that the final two songs are all keyboard was because Varg had no access to instruments while in jail, only a keyboard.
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PostSubject: Re: Traditional Metal Discussion   Wed Aug 05, 2009 5:50 pm

Master Cthulhu wrote:
Metalthrone is mainly a black metal community

I've gathered that Wink

As for Burzum, sampling the songs you posted, not bad, don't like the vocals too much though, I much prefer growls to shrieks (and Death Metal to Black Metal Razz ), but overall pretty good

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PostSubject: Re: Traditional Metal Discussion   Wed Aug 05, 2009 11:06 pm

Master Cthulhu wrote:
Metalthrone is mainly a black metal community, so that's why Razz

But, I would start off with mainly the debut or Hvis Lysett Tar Oss (or however you spell it...)

Samples:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ar624HUZOs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWynJCi_DSY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2qzbiucIoc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPyOhP1GTRQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0YCcuPtVq0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8TKPD-15oQ

One song from each album, in chronological order, showing the progression of the band. The reason that the final two songs are all keyboard was because Varg had no access to instruments while in jail, only a keyboard.

I found this useful. I never really got into Burzum, the whole 'this bastard killed Euronymous, who made amazing music, why support him?' thing got in the way.

This is convincing me that the music itself may be worth it.
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PostSubject: Re: Traditional Metal Discussion   Thu Aug 06, 2009 12:24 am

I like Burzum a lot better than Mayhem, mainly for the masterful ambient tracks on Burzum albums. Tomhet on Hvis Lysett Tar Oss and Rundtgåing Av Den Transcendentale Egenhetens Støtte on Filosofem.

However, they may turn people off to Burzum, but his albums make me transcend into a whole different world of thought and philosophy.
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PostSubject: Re: Traditional Metal Discussion   Thu Aug 06, 2009 12:38 am

Master Cthulhu wrote:
I like Burzum a lot better than Mayhem, mainly for the masterful ambient tracks on Burzum albums. Tomhet on Hvis Lysett Tar Oss and Rundtgåing Av Den Transcendentale Egenhetens Støtte on Filosofem.

However, they may turn people off to Burzum, but his albums make me transcend into a whole different world of thought and philosophy.
I honestly only like De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas by Mayhem. Everything else is sub-par. All of the live albums with Dead as vocalist are worth it too. But that is only because he was such an awesome vocalist.
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PostSubject: Re: Traditional Metal Discussion   Thu Aug 06, 2009 12:40 am

It's too bad Euronymous wasn't a very good guitar player...

He fucks up the solo to Freezing Moon so badly that I actually started laughing.

He was, however, a songwriting master.

Otherwise LIL is a very good performance, especially Dead.

Ordo ad Chao and the Deathcrush EP are also very good IMO.
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PostSubject: Re: Traditional Metal Discussion   Thu Aug 06, 2009 12:43 am

He apparently hadn't been playing guitar for long. I agree though, he was embarrassing at times. The thing about early Mayhem that draws me in is the vocals. That's pretty much it.
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PostSubject: Re: Traditional Metal Discussion   Thu Aug 06, 2009 12:46 am

Have you heard the Pure Fucking Armageddon demo?

Holy shit it sucks.
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PostSubject: Re: Traditional Metal Discussion   Thu Aug 06, 2009 12:49 am

Nope. For early Mayhem I generally stick to fan albums, live albums, and compilation albums. A while ago I found a tribute album that is Morbid/Mayhem split, it is pretty sweet shit.
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PostSubject: Re: Traditional Metal Discussion   Thu Aug 06, 2009 6:25 am

While I know very little about the bands you guys are talking about, I agree on one thing, I like Burzum's music more than Mayhem's based on what I've heard

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PostSubject: Re: Traditional Metal Discussion   Sat Aug 15, 2009 10:29 pm

I love how Knightfall posts about Burzum in a Traditional Metal Thread. You dumb dildo. Also Manilla Road are fuckwin to the Max. I forgot what album I had but it had the song Necropolis on it and I fucking would headbang like crazy. Who here likes SAXON?

For an Obscure NWOBHM band check out Crucifixion, they have an EP called GREEN EYES which is definitely one of the coolest fucking things from that time period but got such little attention. Also another goodie is Battleaxe who has an album called Burn This Town which is just Badass all around.
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PostSubject: Re: Traditional Metal Discussion   Sat Aug 15, 2009 10:32 pm

Saxon are, of course, great, I've hear of Battleaxe, but haven't heard their stuff yet.

Never heard of Crucifixion, but I'll check their MA page.

Witchfinder General is great NWOBHM, as are Pagan Altar and Bedemon.
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PostSubject: Re: Traditional Metal Discussion   Sat Aug 15, 2009 10:41 pm

YES you're the second person who mentioned Pagan Altar and the first to mention Bedemon. Witchfinder General's Death Penalty is definitely one of my favourite albums of all time, the riffs, the guy's voice, the whole thing is just FUCK! Well since you mentioned Bedemon, Pentagram's first album was a masterpiece. The Ghoul was the first song I heard off it and I was like BOY DO I NEED SOME LSD haha.

I guess we COULD mention Motorhead but everyone knows about them so why bother, Lemmy is God and Filthy Phil Barcelona was their best Drummer and Fest Eddie's riffs were Immortal.
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PostSubject: Re: Traditional Metal Discussion   Sat Aug 15, 2009 10:43 pm

I like to rock out with my cock out.

So...

Master of Reality is Sabbath's best album, no?
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PostSubject: Re: Traditional Metal Discussion   Sat Aug 15, 2009 10:54 pm

Volume 4 is way better.
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PostSubject: Re: Traditional Metal Discussion   Sat Aug 15, 2009 11:03 pm

Vol 4 was really good, probably my 2nd favorite sabbath album, and Under the Sun has one of the heaviest intros ever.

But, Vol 4 has Changes, which is awful, and a completely pointless FX track. I mean, wtf were they thinking? Is this supposed to be atmospheric?

But, all in all, Snowblind, Supernaut, Wheels of Confusion, and Under the Sun more than make up for those two tracks.

Still, MoR has Into the Void, Solitude, Sweet Leaf, ah fuck it. Every single song on MoR is a masterpiece.
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PostSubject: Re: Traditional Metal Discussion   Sat Aug 15, 2009 11:07 pm

No No Dont get me wrong MoR was really fucking good, but I have a REALLY BIG SOFT SPOT for Snowblind since I feel extremely happy when I play it on bass, its probably the only song I can play on bass and feel really happy about, its just got a fantastic flow. Same with Supernaut which is fun on Every Instrument. Into The Void is hands down one of Sabbath's greatest songs ever made, they have so many good songs, if I made a best of it would be HUEG. Although I started getting mad after a while with the crap songs they began to make, like on Never Say Die!, wtf was that piece of shit... ¯\(º_o)/¯
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PostSubject: Re: Traditional Metal Discussion   Sat Aug 15, 2009 11:11 pm

Technical Ecstasy

*shudders*

I tried to like it, I really did, but I think it's impossible.

However, later Sabbath is pretty good, like Headless Cross, Dehumanizer, and Tyr.

Even the new Heaven and Hell was great, considering how old the band is.

On another note, if I were to hear Vol 4 and MoR in '72 I would've shat my pants. They are still some of the heaviest riffs today.
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