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PostSubject: Re: Top 10 Death/Black Metal bands   Fri May 07, 2010 1:10 pm

Come on, you don't even like Black Funeral's Vampyr - Throne of the Beast, or Grand Belial's Key's Judeobeast Assassination? What is wrong with you?
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PostSubject: Re: Top 10 Death/Black Metal bands   Fri May 07, 2010 4:29 pm

Okay at best.

Also, you were right about Agalloch and them not being black metal. They just have the influence from bm, among many other things.

Folk metal? NO. NO! I would NEVER call Agalloch folk metal. Agalloch combines many elements from many different genres, incl. elements from some metal genres and from neofolk, prog rock, post-rock, etc. But just because Agalloch has neofolk in their repertoire does NOT make them folk metal. Agalloch doesn't sound anywhere close to any folk metal band ever. They're just an experimental band that mixes many genres.
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PostSubject: Re: Top 10 Death/Black Metal bands   Fri May 07, 2010 5:29 pm

Folk metal pisses me off. I have two CDs from the entire genre and I listen to neither often.

For anyone who cares, the two I have are Hollenthon's Opus Magnum and Profugus Mortis' So it Begins. Yes, I have Blackguard back before they were Blackguard and weren't abysmal, but simply not very good.
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PostSubject: Re: Top 10 Death/Black Metal bands   Fri May 07, 2010 5:35 pm

Knightfall wrote:
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Whatever. Almost all American black metal blows. Von, Black Witchery and Agalloch is the best the US has to offer probably, as far as black metal goes.

Idiot, you are.

You listen to Nile.

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PostSubject: Re: Top 10 Death/Black Metal bands   Fri May 07, 2010 5:44 pm

Blackwater-RiD wrote:
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Idiot, you are.

You listen to Nile.

This.
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PostSubject: Re: Top 10 Death/Black Metal bands   Fri May 07, 2010 6:01 pm

Blackwater-RiD wrote:
Knightfall wrote:
Warluster wrote:
Whatever. Almost all American black metal blows. Von, Black Witchery and Agalloch is the best the US has to offer probably, as far as black metal goes.

Idiot, you are.

You listen to Nile.

How observant of you.

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PostSubject: Re: Top 10 Death/Black Metal bands   Mon May 10, 2010 2:45 am

Has anybody even read some of the interviews w/ Malefic? He tries WAAAY too hard.
People think his music is genius when it's really just boring and nothing new.
Plus, 99% of depressive/suicidal black metal just sucks. Fuck that emo shit.

Crap like that and symphonic "black metal" or all that "gothic" bullshit pisses me off. It's the reason I got into war metal. That shit is the essence of true black metal. Evil, Satan, darkness, war, nihilism, etc.

Anyways...

Some folk metal is okay. I used to really like it. I mean, I went to the first Paganfest and saw Ensiferum, Eluveitie, Tyr, Turisas, etc. but it gets boring pretty fast. You start realizing all the bands pretty much sound the same. They almost all do this specific riffing style.
I still have a bit of a soft spot for bands like Ensiferum, Moonsorrow, and a few other ones, but I almost never listen to them. I mean, I don't hate them, but I don't go out of my way to listen to them or find out what new stuff is going on there.
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PostSubject: Re: Top 10 Death/Black Metal bands   Mon May 10, 2010 10:12 am

Xasthur is pretty stupid. Warluster what are some black metal bands do you like?
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PostSubject: Re: Top 10 Death/Black Metal bands   Tue May 11, 2010 1:16 am

Very generalized question. I could just name a few, but there's so many I like. I like all the old savage greats for one. I count early bands like Hellhammer and Sarcofago some of my favorite.
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PostSubject: Re: Top 10 Death/Black Metal bands   Wed May 12, 2010 12:39 pm

What the hell are the old savage greats? that means to me anything from Mystifier and Mortuary Drape or Blasphemy and Conqueror or Burzum and Mayhem lol.
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PostSubject: Re: Top 10 Death/Black Metal bands   Wed May 12, 2010 1:25 pm

Lolmystifier shitty black metal is shit.
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PostSubject: Re: Top 10 Death/Black Metal bands   Wed May 12, 2010 6:03 pm

Mystifier is great and very unique.

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PostSubject: Re: Top 10 Death/Black Metal bands   Wed May 12, 2010 6:23 pm

Shit band, no fans.
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PostSubject: Re: Top 10 Death/Black Metal bands   Thu May 13, 2010 3:00 pm

My favorite band : p
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PostSubject: Re: Top 10 Death/Black Metal bands   Thu May 13, 2010 3:09 pm

I instantly lose all respect for bands that participate in Sepultura tribute albums and/or sound anything like Sepultura. Obvious Sepultura influence is obvious in Mystifier. I am biased against anything from South America though. I've ignored the scene this far and have no intention of paying attention to it.
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PostSubject: Re: Top 10 Death/Black Metal bands   Thu May 13, 2010 3:28 pm

O okay not my concern though.
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PostSubject: Re: Top 10 Death/Black Metal bands   Sat May 15, 2010 3:44 am

Morbid Visions and Bestial Devastation by Sepultura are great. It slowly went downhill into total crapdom after that, though. In any case, I was not referring to any of those bands.

All of those bands come much later than the time period I'm talking about, except Blasphemy. I was talking about bands like Bathory, Hellhammer, Sarcofago, etc.

Dead, you are doing yourself a disservice by ignoring the South American scene. They're savagery and brutality can hardly be matched by most other scenes. I hope you've at least listened to Sarcofago's INRI, the best place to start w/ the SA scene. I've listened to scenes from all over the world and the SA scene is one of my favorites.
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PostSubject: Re: Top 10 Death/Black Metal bands   Sat May 15, 2010 9:21 am

Haven't looked into Sarcofago, like I said, I've been ignoring the scene. Might give it a shot if I see it around, but I won't expend any energy to get it. Also, I'm not into black metal for savagery and brutality, more for the rawness and the bleak quality to the music. I'm sure that doesn't make sense at all.
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PostSubject: Re: Top 10 Death/Black Metal bands   Sun May 16, 2010 12:08 pm

Sarcofago are a fuckin ace band!
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PostSubject: Re: Top 10 Death/Black Metal bands   Tue May 18, 2010 7:04 pm

No, it makes sense, Dead. I enjoy those qualities, too.

But, yeah, if nothing else you HAVE to check out Sarcofago's INRI. It was a huge infl. to any later black metal band. Big infl. for the Norwegian bands, too.
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PostSubject: Re: Top 10 Death/Black Metal bands   Mon Jun 21, 2010 8:05 pm

Black:

Darkthrone
The Ruins of Beverast
Peste Noire
Immortal
Gorgoroth
Leviathan
Burzum
Wolves In the Throne Room
Summoning
Xasthur


Death:

The Chasm
Darkthrone (when they were Death Metal)
Bolt-Thrower
Nocturnus
Nile
Morbid Angel
Autopsy
Carcass
Impaled
Death

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PostSubject: Re: Top 10 Death/Black Metal bands   Tue Jun 22, 2010 4:09 am

^ no 'phagist?

U TRATIOR!
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PostSubject: Re: Top 10 Death/Black Metal bands   Tue Jun 22, 2010 4:59 am

Having 2 shitty albums doesn't qualify a band for a "top 10" list.

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PostSubject: Re: Top 10 Death/Black Metal bands   Tue Jun 22, 2010 10:45 am

Every band in my post individually are each infinitely better than Necrophagist could ever be.

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PostSubject: Re: Top 10 Death/Black Metal bands   Tue Jun 22, 2010 2:46 pm

I should do an update. In no particular order:

DEATH:
Amon Amarth
Kataklysm
Bloodbath
Coffins
Behemoth
Nile
Bolt Thrower
Hollenthon
Scar Symmetry
Ex Deo

BLACK:
Summoning
Anaal Nathrakh
Altar of Plagues
Darkestrah
Woods of Ypres
Dimmu Borgir
Naglfar
Dark Fortress
Immortal
Primordial (If you consider them black metal)
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